Colder than people in TO?

Toronto_080131_0126.jpgIt’s a Canadian reality that if you are not from Toronto or don’t live here, odds are you hate this city. A similar situation can be found in most countries. New York, Madrid, Paris, London, São Paulo, are all the object of ambiguous feelings by Americans, Spaniards, les français, Brits, and Brazilians respectively. So the Vancouver billboard promoting a brand of beer with the words “colder than people in Toronto” was not surprising even if it annoyed a few Torontonians and allowed Vancouverites to laugh and puff their chests in self-satisfaction.

I’m not a Torontonian and Alan and I came to Toronto from the city that perhaps hates this city the most – Montreal. Montreal’s attitude towards Toronto is steeped in the complex conflict between English and French that marks this country but also in the fact that Montreal only recently lost its position as financial and cultural capital of the country to Toronto, when most of the multinational corporations’ headquarters left Quebec because of the separatist movement. Even the most level-headed Montrealer can’t avoid holding negative opinions about Toronto. When we announced to our friends that we were moving to Toronto we might as well have told them we lost a cherished family member or were diagnosed with a terminal disease. Every single one of our well-traveled, open-minded, and otherwise cheerful friends reacted in exactly the same way. “Oh no! Why?? You’re going to hate Toronto!” they exclaimed, before starting a long list of stereotypes Montrealers believe fiercely about Toronto beginning with the Coors commercial line and going on to say that Torontonians only think about money and work, they don’t know how to have fun, they only talk to you to know what you do for a living, there’s nothing to do in Toronto, everything closes early… the list goes on and invariably ended in my favourite: “Toronto is not as multicultural as Montreal”. That one always makes me laugh as it shows that either the speaker had never been to downtown Toronto or hadn’t been here in over 30 years. We usually simply nodded, pretending to agree.

Alan and I had never been to Toronto before so there was no point in arguing. Initially, even Alan had the typical Montrealer reaction when I told him I had decided to do my PhD at the University of Toronto. “I’m not going to Toronto!” Fine, I said, I’ll commute. Eventually he came around and accepted the inevitable. By that point I had convinced him to arrive with no expectations and give the city a fair chance. I didn’t know Toronto but I’ve always been suspicious of easy generalizations so I didn’t take any of what we were told seriously. I arrived in the city with the same attitude I have about any place I’ve ever lived in – an open mind and determined to like the place so I can make the best of my time here. No point in being miserable for minimum of five years we would have to spend here.

HappyEven with our positive attitude, we were pleasantly surprised. Every person with whom we interacted in our first few weeks here was welcoming and friendly. As soon as we mentioned we had just moved here, they would say “welcome to Toronto!” Granted, we live in the gay village, perhaps one of the friendliest places in town but we’ve had similar experiences hanging our in other neighbourhoods. We found that much like in most places in the world, if you are friendly and make an effort to talk to people, they will talk to you. Alan quickly got to know everybody on the subway platform on his way to work and we are on first name basis with all our neighbours and all the people that serve us in all the stores and restaurants we frequent regularly.

In time, we found that every single stereotype held about Toronto was at most, a myth. Torontonians are not just focused on money – the city has its Bay street lawyer types but it is also home to a very vibrant artistic and bohemian community. If you follow my friend JP’s blog, you’ll find that the indie music scene is quite impressive and it’s easy to watch live shows and have a lot of fun for next to nothing. Toronto’s diversity is perhaps one of its features that I will miss most when we finally leave. Alan used to get home from work full of excitement telling me he overheard people speaking Swahili on the subway. For the nature lovers, the big city of Toronto can be an oasis as well. Its green spaces and ravines make it indeed a city within a park.

The only thing we initially missed about Montreal was hearing French on a daily basis and the food culture. But as my food blog indicates, I’m slowly discovering that Toronto has much to offer in the latter regard as well. If only our Montreal friends would come to visit us so we could show them…

Author: guerson

Food-obsessed historian and knitter.

6 thoughts on “Colder than people in TO?”

  1. Wow! What a great article, I can see that you and I have a lot in common, because wherever I go I always have a positive attitude, it make a huge difference!

  2. For those who lived in Sao Paulo/Brazil, Toronto is far from a cold city!
    I find people very friendly here, they usually talk to you even if they don’t know you; and if you have pets, OMG, they will ask you everything about your pet’s life: name, bread, age, weight, favorite food, etc.

  3. Jeanne,

    That’s so true. I found Toronto to be very pet-friendly as well. In Montreal nobody really paid much attention to my dog – actually, the only interaction I had with someone else about my dog in Montreal was when a woman asked me my dog’s breed and when I told her, she replied “she’s obviously not purebred”. Here in Toronto people would stop us on the street, ask if they could give her a treat, shop owners would come out with treats, many stores have water bowls outside for the dogs and you can take your pets on public transit. It’s really amazing.




    I know, we keep telling them…

  4. Being from Toronto, I never really understood the criticisms although when I go back now as a visitor, I find it different from living there.
    I do find that people in El Paso are friendlier and go out of their way to help you in different ways from people in Toronto. But I think that has a lot to do with the culture here (it reminds me a lot of Spain actually).

  5. I may have never been to Montreal, but I highly doubt that any city could be “a whole lot more” culturally diverse if compared to Toronto, TO is so diverse! It’s almost impossible to go around the downtown area and not find people talking in different languages, little ethnic (for lack of a better word) stores and so on.

    And I’m not so sure about the degree of truthfulness in the Torontonians’ reputation of being cold, I always end up starting conversation with strangers when I visit… One of the times (when I took the camera for a walk with us) a photographer started talking to us and ended up telling us about his life, how he had started taking pictures in the late 70’s and became a professional later on, complained about the limitation of the SLRs etc. And that sort of thing happens often, I really don’t think that it’s just my luck.

    It just feels like there is a lot to explore in Toronto, I don’t know why people complain so much :)

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